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Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123219 is a reply to message #123216] Sat, 01 August 2015 16:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Think Fixed is currently offline  Think Fixed
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philstone wrote on Sat, 01 August 2015 02:10
Be that as it may, I, and others, have had issues with an existing build (10.10) that was working perfectly, but now does not work on 10.11 - therefore there must be some issues with Kerio at some stage.


OK. I don't know what to tell you then. Mine works. The thing that is different is that you and I are on different Kerio Connect servers. Perhaps mine is setup in a way that agrees with El Capitan better. If it doesn't work for you with the final release of El Capitan, and what ever version of Kerio Connect that is out at the time, then I'm sure Kerio will help you get it working.


Howie Isaacks
Systems Engineer | Apple Solutions Consultant
Think Fixed LLC, Dallas and Fort Worth

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Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123262 is a reply to message #123006] Tue, 04 August 2015 09:35 Go to previous messageGo to next message
smindeaux is currently offline  smindeaux
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Having the same issues as you. All my 10.9.xand 10.10 users are using Jabber with no problems. Since installing 10.11 I haven't been able to use Jabber.

I'm running Kerio Connect 8.5.1 and now running latest DP (15A244d) hoping each new release will fix it. No such luck.

I have also manually and used the Connect client. We only run our Jabber as SSL (port 5223), but for testing I also enabled port 5222 for non-SSL and no change. Even did a clean install of 10.11 on a brand new system and still no Jabber.
Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123271 is a reply to message #123262] Tue, 04 August 2015 13:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Think Fixed is currently offline  Think Fixed
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It still works perfectly for me. I'm not doing anything special.

Howie Isaacks
Systems Engineer | Apple Solutions Consultant
Think Fixed LLC, Dallas and Fort Worth

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Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123309 is a reply to message #123271] Thu, 06 August 2015 09:33 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tomas Skoda (Kerio)
Messages: 107
Registered: May 2012
Hi all,

I did a quick test and Messages successfully connected to Kerio Connect. However no matter what I put into Server Settings it always use port 5223 with SSL and the domain part of username as a server.

I suggest to:
- ensure Secure Instant Messaging service is running on port 5223
- insert a line at the end of /etc/hosts on client machine which pairs server IP address with your testing domain, e.g. '192.168.1.1 elcapitaintest.com'

My test configuration:
Server: Kerio Connect 8.5.1 on OS X 10.10.4
Client: Messages 8.0 (5078) on OS X 10.11 (15A243d, Beta 3)
Certificate: autogenerated, self-signed

Cheers,
Tomas Skoda
Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123310 is a reply to message #122305] Thu, 06 August 2015 10:32 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DeepThought is currently offline  DeepThought
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Thanks for looking at this Tomas.

I have checked that my server is running SSL over 5223.

I have also checked that pinging my domain name resolves to the correct ip address for the Kerio server.

Still no joy.

My config page in messages is set to:

Server: domain.com
Port 5223 Use SSL ticked

Warn before sending password insecurely is ticked but I cannot untick this - would that make any difference?

Thanks
Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123314 is a reply to message #122305] Thu, 06 August 2015 13:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Think Fixed is currently offline  Think Fixed
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Here's a screenshot of my settings. They're very simple. Nothing special. I've replaced the actual server name to protect the innocent. I just tested this again using El Cap DP 6. I'm wondering if the SSL requirements of the Messages app in El Capitan are different from the requirements in Yosemite. Perhaps that's where we need to look. The SSL certificate used on my Kerio Connect server includes the intermediate certificates.

Howie Isaacks
Systems Engineer | Apple Solutions Consultant
Think Fixed LLC, Dallas and Fort Worth

www.thinkfixed.com
Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123315 is a reply to message #123314] Thu, 06 August 2015 13:22 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DeepThought is currently offline  DeepThought
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Yep - I have the same format.

I think you could be onto something though in terms of SSL. I had issues with my SSL cert and had to get Kerio to help out with it.
Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123329 is a reply to message #123314] Thu, 06 August 2015 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
smindeaux is currently offline  smindeaux
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I have also tried to get Jabber working using a third party app like Adium and it doesn't work there either.

If it is an SSL cert issue, why is this the only SSL service that is affected? Wouldn't my mail services using the same SSL cert and server be affected too?

In testing I disabled my SSL requirement and I can't log in using port 5222 either. Sad
Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123331 is a reply to message #123329] Thu, 06 August 2015 18:21 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Think Fixed is currently offline  Think Fixed
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I hate saying this over and over again, but it works perfectly for me, so the logical conclusion is that this is not a Kerio Connect and El Capitan incompatibility. It's likely that something has changed with the Jabber protocol, and there's some issue with the way it's talking to your Kerio Connect servers.

Howie Isaacks
Systems Engineer | Apple Solutions Consultant
Think Fixed LLC, Dallas and Fort Worth

www.thinkfixed.com
Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123332 is a reply to message #123331] Thu, 06 August 2015 18:40 Go to previous messageGo to next message
smindeaux is currently offline  smindeaux
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Yes, thank you for pointing that out over and over. However since others continue to have this issue and you are in the minority as the only working system with 10.11 so far in this forum. I'd still hope that someone from Kerio will chime in.

Is your Connect server install a clean fresh install of 8.5.1 or was it upgraded from a previous working version?

If you think the Jabber protocol has changed, how do you explain that? Are you saying it changed from 8.4.x to 8.5.x? I have been having the XMPP problem since 8.4.x with 10.11. I upgraded to 8.5.1 hoping that would fix the problem, but it has just persisted.

All my other 250 users that are still on Yosemite and Mavericks have no problems whatsoever. The only workstation that has a problem is our testing environment in El Capitan.

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Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123336 is a reply to message #123332] Thu, 06 August 2015 19:41 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Think Fixed is currently offline  Think Fixed
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Registered: June 2014
Location: Addison, TX

Here are the details of my setup:

I'm running this on El Capitan build 15A244d, DP 6. I have two accounts setup. One is on a Kerio Connect server running the beta of 8.5.2, and another is running 8.5.1. Neither Kerio Connect server was a clean install. They're both production servers that have been running for years. Both servers are running on CentOS version 6.6. I'm using local authentication. No directory services.

I would suggest turning on Instant Messaging Server in the Debug log to see if any errors are being generated there. Perhaps that might help point the way to the solution to the problem.


Howie Isaacks
Systems Engineer | Apple Solutions Consultant
Think Fixed LLC, Dallas and Fort Worth

www.thinkfixed.com
Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123341 is a reply to message #123336] Fri, 07 August 2015 10:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Tomas Skoda (Kerio)
Messages: 107
Registered: May 2012
Hi all,

I want to dig into this problem little more so I'm asking you for your help. Please follow these instructions:

1. enable Instant Messaging debug log on Kerio Connect server
2. on El Captain create a new Messages account, try to connect to server (note down current time)
3. on El Captain download Adium client (1.5.10)
- run it with 'alt' key pressed (from Application folder), select 'run in debug mode' in the dialog that appears
- configure the same account as in Messages and try to connect (note down current time)
4. Share with me (in PM) zipped:
- logs from store/logs (error, warning, security)
- logs from store/xmpp/logs
- content of Adium->Debug Window
- date and time when you tried to connect from Messages and a result (success, failure)
- date and time when you tried to connect from Adium and a result (success, failure)
- mailserver.cfg

Thanks for your time,
Tomas Skoda


Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123360 is a reply to message #123341] Sat, 08 August 2015 17:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Think Fixed is currently offline  Think Fixed
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Has anyone who is having this problem done this?

Howie Isaacks
Systems Engineer | Apple Solutions Consultant
Think Fixed LLC, Dallas and Fort Worth

www.thinkfixed.com
Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123381 is a reply to message #122305] Mon, 10 August 2015 12:45 Go to previous messageGo to next message
DeepThought is currently offline  DeepThought
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Thanks Tomas - will do this afternoon.

Cheers
Re: 10.11 and Messages [message #123394 is a reply to message #122305] Mon, 10 August 2015 17:14 Go to previous messageGo to previous message
DeepThought is currently offline  DeepThought
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PM sent.

Thanks
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