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Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103055] Wed, 22 May 2013 09:01 Go to next message
PhoenixVOZ is currently offline  PhoenixVOZ
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Hi there,

I've setup Kerio with 3 NICs (1 for Internet, 1 for DMZ, 1 for Local). And I have 3 Internet router link to Kerio NIC Internet by a small switches. But just one NICs for Internet, i just can setup with one line. So, some users want to use other internet lines. How can i route that users to other internet line ?

1. Internet router have 3 IPs, 10.0.0.1, 10.0.0.2, 10.0.0.3
2. DMZ with 192.168.0.0/24
3. Local with 172.16.0.0/24

Default GW of 172.16.0.0/24 is 10.0.0.1 (NAT)

i want to route some IPs (example 172.16.0.100 to 10.0.0.3).. How ?????

PS: I've used Endian Firewall before, it's default gateway is 10.0.0.1, and it can route just like that ( 172.16.0.100 to other gateway )

[Updated on: Wed, 22 May 2013 09:05]

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Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103084 is a reply to message #103055] Thu, 23 May 2013 04:25 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mlee (Kerio)
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You can specify the IP Address you want to use in Source NAT.

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Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103087 is a reply to message #103084] Thu, 23 May 2013 05:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PhoenixVOZ is currently offline  PhoenixVOZ
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Hi Martin Lee,

That's case you talk about if we have many NIC for Internet line
At my case, i'm just have 1 NIC for Internet, default Internet gateway is 10.0.0.1, but some users want use other Internet line, then how can i route that users to other gateways ?

Default users still using default internet line with gateway 10.0.0.1 on Internet NIC
Some other users, same subnet with default users, want to use other Internet Line, but the gateway just 10.0.0.1, how can i route ??/

[Updated on: Thu, 23 May 2013 05:51]

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Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103089 is a reply to message #103055] Thu, 23 May 2013 06:14 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mlee (Kerio)
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If you have multiple NIC, you can specify the interface. You have 1 NIC so just specify the IP address.
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Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103090 is a reply to message #103089] Thu, 23 May 2013 06:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PhoenixVOZ is currently offline  PhoenixVOZ
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ok i will try
Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103092 is a reply to message #103055] Thu, 23 May 2013 06:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PhoenixVOZ is currently offline  PhoenixVOZ
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It's not work, i'm trying many way. when apply that rule, PC can not ping anymore
Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103093 is a reply to message #103092] Thu, 23 May 2013 06:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PhoenixVOZ is currently offline  PhoenixVOZ
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THis is my simple diagram. Can you check and fix where i'm wrong ?

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5343/8786855685_ee0613e3d7_o.jpg

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5466/8797435692_8ff60e9637_o.jpg

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2856/8797435526_c9dec78bd8_o.jpg

Thanks you
Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103095 is a reply to message #103093] Thu, 23 May 2013 07:50 Go to previous messageGo to next message
mlee (Kerio)
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The solution I suggest only works if 10.0.0.3 is an IP address configured in Kerio Control.

As in your case, don't think it can be done.


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Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103127 is a reply to message #103055] Fri, 24 May 2013 05:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PhoenixVOZ is currently offline  PhoenixVOZ
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It's require one NIC/line internet, NIC use for internet lines can use same subnet with each others but you must switch to LoadBalancing mode.
Endian firewall can do that, it's can route IP to other gateways.

Can Kerio will develop that thing later ?

[Updated on: Fri, 24 May 2013 05:11]

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Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103144 is a reply to message #103127] Fri, 24 May 2013 15:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
silars is currently offline  silars
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Try using Destination NAT to 10.0.0.3, while using Source NAT.

[Yeah, ignore this. This won't work.]

[Updated on: Sat, 25 May 2013 04:42]

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Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103147 is a reply to message #103144] Fri, 24 May 2013 16:00 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PhoenixVOZ is currently offline  PhoenixVOZ
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The source NAT IP is IP of NIC which have gateway 10.0.0.3, can not use directly to that gateway.
Example.
If we have 3 NIC for internet..
1. With IP 10.0.0.101 gateway 10.0.0.1. (router 1)
2. 10.0.0.102 gateway 10.0.0.2 (Router 2)
3. Same with .103 and .3

Then you can use source NAT IP but that IP is IP of NIC (101,102,103) not IP of router

If you don't believe, just try, i'm stucking at this many times...

Now with one NIC for Internet, i can't route user to other internet lines if they want...Sad



Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103170 is a reply to message #103147] Sat, 25 May 2013 04:44 Go to previous messageGo to next message
silars is currently offline  silars
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Without VLANs, you'd need Policy-based Routing.

However, with VLANs, you can make it work. The VLANs should show up as additional interfaces to apply to rules. The downside is you would have to modify your 10.0.0.x masking scheme.

Does your switch handles VLANs? Can you alter your 10.0.0.x IP scheme?
Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103178 is a reply to message #103170] Sat, 25 May 2013 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
PhoenixVOZ is currently offline  PhoenixVOZ
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If split to vlan, then the small switches in diagram must be layer 2 or better, i tried with vlan too and it work with vlan, but require switches at least layer 2.

I don't know how endian can work with this case, but the bussiness product like kerio can't... It just simple case,
Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103185 is a reply to message #103178] Sat, 25 May 2013 15:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
silars is currently offline  silars
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Endian likely includes some Policy-based Routing (using information other than Destination IP in the routing decision). There is also the idea of defining a "Next-Hop" in the traffic rule. This is essentially also Policy-based Routing.

It is hard to find modern switches that don't support VLANs, even the really cheap ones. Most businesses will only consider switches that have VLAN capabilities.

But, to be honest, this is a niche design. You can't design a product to work in all scenarios. It just isn't possible. Not to mention, there are very inexpensive solutions to your problem: buy 2 more NICs, buy another switch, enable VLANs in current switch, etc. Replacing Kerio with Endian will be a significant cost.

I'd love to see Kerio add more Policy routing capabilities, but you can easily solve your problems with simple changes.
Re: Change Internet Line for each Users [message #103189 is a reply to message #103185] Sat, 25 May 2013 19:01 Go to previous message
PhoenixVOZ is currently offline  PhoenixVOZ
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Ok, thanks you, so kerio can't do that. Seem i must use endian for this case.. Anyway, thanks again silars

[Updated on: Wed, 29 May 2013 12:46]

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