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Kerio is slow, to many users? [message #147036] Tue, 12 November 2019 14:46 Go to next message
Simmon is currently offline  Simmon
Messages: 5
Registered: November 2019
Hello,

we are running an Kerio Installation with ~200 Heavy Users.
The Average User Mailbox size is 20GB. The big ones are around 85GB. In Average every User has 35000 elements in his Mailbox the maximum is 180000 items.

In total over all users this is 1.5TB of mail storage.

We use an Ubuntu Linux Server with 8 Cores on 2.1 Ghz and 16GB RAM.

We are experiencing Performance Issues, as we use only MacBooks the Apple Calender sometimes sync very slowly. Also mail (Web + Apple Mail) is sometimes very slow.
Sometimes a restart of the Kerio Server helps but after a few days everything is slow and laggy again.

Is there a maximum user/item count that kerio can handle without performance issues? It seems not to be an bug because of everything is running normal just the performance is bad.

Is there a way we can improve performance? Does it make sense to use a bigger server with more cores or more RAM?
Re: Kerio is slow, to many users? [message #147041 is a reply to message #147036] Tue, 12 November 2019 17:11 Go to previous messageGo to next message
j.a.duke is currently offline  j.a.duke
Messages: 239
Registered: October 2006
Simmon wrote on Tue, 12 November 2019 08:46
Hello,

we are running an Kerio Installation with ~200 Heavy Users.
The Average User Mailbox size is 20GB. The big ones are around 85GB. In Average every User has 35000 elements in his Mailbox the maximum is 180000 items.

In total over all users this is 1.5TB of mail storage.

We use an Ubuntu Linux Server with 8 Cores on 2.1 Ghz and 16GB RAM.

We are experiencing Performance Issues, as we use only MacBooks the Apple Calender sometimes sync very slowly. Also mail (Web + Apple Mail) is sometimes very slow.
Sometimes a restart of the Kerio Server helps but after a few days everything is slow and laggy again.

Is there a maximum user/item count that kerio can handle without performance issues? It seems not to be an bug because of everything is running normal just the performance is bad.

Is there a way we can improve performance? Does it make sense to use a bigger server with more cores or more RAM?
You don't tell much about the server hardware, like Maker (Dell, HP, white box, etc.), storage controller (RAID options? RAID Level, etc.), the drives on which your data is stored (5400, 7200 10k, 15k, SSD, what interface they are using to connect to the controller), the network interface type/speed, etc.

Your Processor is probably fine; RAM may need a bump to 32GB, but probably not right away.

I think the issue is storage speed.

Kerio performance is extremely dependent on the speed of your storage.

Give us some more details and we can, hopefully, guide you to a good solution.

Cheers,
Jon
Re: Kerio is slow, to many users? [message #147047 is a reply to message #147041] Wed, 13 November 2019 03:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
bigmountain is currently offline  bigmountain
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Registered: April 2006

I think maybe you might be experiencing storage IO limitations. With 250 users on a Linux box, you should be able to see optimal performance with 4 cores and no more than about 8GB of RAM as long as your disk IO is fast enough. Are you using a physical server or a virtual one? Do you know what your IOPs limitations are?

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Re: Kerio is slow, to many users? [message #147054 is a reply to message #147036] Wed, 13 November 2019 15:15 Go to previous messageGo to next message
boisbleu is currently offline  boisbleu
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Registered: May 2015
Simmon wrote on Tue, 12 November 2019 14:46
Does it make sense to use a bigger server with more cores or more RAM?
No, that's not necessary.

A fast disk array should meet your needs. What about a RAID10-SAS disk array?

Cheers Tom
Re: Kerio is slow, to many users? [message #147055 is a reply to message #147054] Wed, 13 November 2019 15:37 Go to previous messageGo to next message
martin.kaufmann is currently offline  martin.kaufmann
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Registered: August 2018
Location: Germany
I agree regarding the storage system.
Our environment is somewhat similar to yours: rouhly 280 users, 4 cores, 16GB RAM.
No performace issues in any way, but we have a fast RAID6 with cache controllers on that host.

Regards Martin


Kerio Connect 9.3.1 p1
CentOS 7
(until May ยด22)
Re: Kerio is slow, to many users? [message #147065 is a reply to message #147055] Thu, 14 November 2019 09:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Simmon is currently offline  Simmon
Messages: 5
Registered: November 2019
The System is running on ESXI.

Server:
Lenovoo System x3550 M5
16 CPUs x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2620 v4 <_at_> 2.10GHzwith
As Storage we use an Lenovo DS2200 Fiber Channel with RAID 6 on 7k SAS HDD's
Re: Kerio is slow, to many users? [message #147078 is a reply to message #147065] Mon, 18 November 2019 09:42 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Simmon is currently offline  Simmon
Messages: 5
Registered: November 2019
Stange. I have this Issue every Day.

At 8:00 our Users start to work, then Kerio is slow af the System Load is by about 18. When i restart the Kerio Process at 8:30 the load is ok and everything is fine the rest of the day until the next morning at 8:00.

As the Server runs the whole day without any problems, i don't think its hardware related?
Re: Kerio is slow, to many users? [message #147079 is a reply to message #147078] Mon, 18 November 2019 14:46 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ian.bugeja is currently offline  ian.bugeja
Messages: 666
Registered: March 2017
Location: Malta
Simmon

How many users?
What is your disk configuration on the server?
What clients do you users typically use?


Ian Bugeja
GFI Software
Re: Kerio is slow, to many users? [message #147087 is a reply to message #147079] Tue, 19 November 2019 10:29 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Simmon is currently offline  Simmon
Messages: 5
Registered: November 2019
As mentioned above:

Server:
Lenovoo System x3550 M5
16 CPUs x Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2620 v4 <_at_> 2.10GHzwith
As Storage we use an Lenovo DS2200 Fiber Channel with RAID 6 on 7k SAS HDD's

Clients:
MacOS Apple Mail, iOS & Android
Re: Kerio is slow, to many users? [message #147088 is a reply to message #147079] Tue, 19 November 2019 10:40 Go to previous message
sacarlettleo87 is currently offline  sacarlettleo87
Messages: 1
Registered: November 2019
Yeah mine is also slow.
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