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Backup very slow after update from 8.5.3 to 9.1.1 [message #132128] Wed, 05 October 2016 12:19 Go to next message
Zakk is currently offline  Zakk
Messages: 12
Registered: March 2004
hello,

i am running a small Kerio Connect on a Windows 2012r2 Server,
10 Users with ~40GB mailstore.
system was running on 8.5.3, a full backup to backup server had taken
nearly 1,5 hours, the *.zip (splitted to 2Gb parts) are ~22 GB.

10 days ago i updated Kerio Connect to latest version 9.1.1.

since update, the full backup is taking around 2 hours per 2GB part,
means the whole backup is now taking ~22 hours !

nothing else was changed, backup machine and kerio connect machine had been rebooted,
no change. as far as i know there are no parameters you can adjust for backup performance.

is this a bug in 9.x version ?

why is backup so slow now?


thx,

zakk

Re: Backup very slow after update from 8.5.3 to 9.1.1 [message #132320 is a reply to message #132128] Sat, 15 October 2016 11:10 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Zakk is currently offline  Zakk
Messages: 12
Registered: March 2004
no ideas for this behaviour ?

i am the only one with this problem ?

Re: Backup very slow after update from 8.5.3 to 9.1.1 [message #132322 is a reply to message #132320] Sun, 16 October 2016 07:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
flyingcanoe is currently offline  flyingcanoe
Messages: 4
Registered: February 2012
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

We have just done the same upgrade as you, but on a Mac server, and the zip backups are faster now for us.

just a thought - when we originally set up the Kerio Connect back in v6 days, we set the backup zips to segment at 1.8Gb mainly because we thought that we might have issues opening a 2GB file on some filesystems. Since then we have never had an issue browsing or opening a backup zip file.

maybe try a smaller zip size ?

[Updated on: Sun, 16 October 2016 07:18]

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Re: Backup very slow after update from 8.5.3 to 9.x [message #132812 is a reply to message #132128] Sun, 13 November 2016 14:16 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Zakk is currently offline  Zakk
Messages: 12
Registered: March 2004
i trid 2 things:

1) reduced the file size from 2 GB to 1 TB per part -> no change
2) updated to lastest 9.2 version -> no change

backup takes ~27h for only 24 GB of Backupo files
on Up-to-date Hardware, thats a lot too long!
Re: Backup very slow after update from 8.5.3 to 9.x [message #132815 is a reply to message #132812] Sun, 13 November 2016 19:05 Go to previous messageGo to next message
flyingcanoe is currently offline  flyingcanoe
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Registered: February 2012
Location: Auckland, New Zealand

Yep, that's too long. Kerio on our old Mac server takes about 7mins to write a 1.9Gb zip to a firewire800 hard drive so something is wrong on your system.

no clues in event viewer ?

tried excluding the destination volume in your AV software ?
Re: Backup very slow after update from 8.5.3 to 9.x [message #132884 is a reply to message #132815] Wed, 16 November 2016 18:03 Go to previous messageGo to next message
scottwilkins is currently offline  scottwilkins
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Tulsa, OK
I just updated from 9.0.4 to 9.2 and started seeing this problem. We've got a 500GB store, and have yet to get a full back up due to the slowness.
Re: Backup very slow after update from 8.5.3 to 9.x [message #132897 is a reply to message #132884] Thu, 17 November 2016 15:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Carconnex is currently offline  Carconnex
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Registered: November 2016
Location: Belgium
That's indeed not normal: our full backup of 200GB takes less than an hour (on SSD)

[Updated on: Thu, 17 November 2016 15:58]

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Re: Backup very slow after update from 8.5.3 to 9.x [message #132933 is a reply to message #132897] Fri, 18 November 2016 20:47 Go to previous messageGo to next message
McIrish is currently offline  McIrish
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Registered: October 2011
I too have noticed this. Our mail store is around 450GB and I start the backup at 1AM on a Sunday. Most weeks I have to kill the process at 10AM on Monday because it's still not done and it locks people out of their mailbox while the backup is running. I never used to have that problem but I noticed it started around V9 or 9.1
Re: Backup very slow after update from 8.5.3 to 9.x [message #132942 is a reply to message #132933] Sun, 20 November 2016 11:02 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Zakk is currently offline  Zakk
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Registered: March 2004
i am glad to hear, that i am not the only one.

just for the record:
windows 2012r2 - kerio connect 8.5.3 (32 bit) = everything fine
windows 2012r2 - kerio connect 9.x (64 bit) = snail backup

nothing else changed, no problems known.
up to date hardware: ESX 5.5 with XEON 6-core, 64Gb ram, SSD + 4TB drives
backup is made to network folder, usual write speed is 100 mb/sec an up.

i would be glad if the devolopers investigate that behaviour.

[Updated on: Sun, 20 November 2016 11:04]

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Re: Backup very slow after update from 8.5.3 to 9.x [message #132950 is a reply to message #132942] Mon, 21 November 2016 14:04 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Maerad is currently offline  Maerad
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Registered: August 2013
Zakk wrote on Sun, 20 November 2016 11:02
i am glad to hear, that i am not the only one.

just for the record:
windows 2012r2 - kerio connect 8.5.3 (32 bit) = everything fine
windows 2012r2 - kerio connect 9.x (64 bit) = snail backup

nothing else changed, no problems known.
up to date hardware: ESX 5.5 with XEON 6-core, 64Gb ram, SSD + 4TB drives
backup is made to network folder, usual write speed is 100 mb/sec an up.

i would be glad if the devolopers investigate that behaviour.


Did you change anything else with the new Mailserver? We run Windows Server 2012 HyperV Host with Kerio installed in a HyperV Guest on Server 2012.

Kerio itself is on a Raid 1 SAS 15k HDD VHDX and needs around 7 min. for the daily differential backup and 6 hours for the full backup on Sunday. And that with only 2 vcore for the OS...

So there seems to be something quite wrong ...

I would suggest the following:

- Try to copy a bigger file to the remote folder, just to be sure, that the network works fine (you won't believe how often I was under the impression I didn't change anything else, and then there was this little change I did with the new Update etc. pp. that messed everything up) Very Happy
- Erase all old Backups and do them from scratch, maybe something is messed up inside
- Change the Backuplocation to another Server / PC for testing purposes
- Check / disable any anti-virus scanner on the mail server and the receiving server (maybe something changed within the backup or exe and a virus tool scans the folders / data)
- Do a "manual" backup - right click on the store folder > send > zip > select the remote folder
Re: Backup very slow after update from 8.5.3 to 9.x [message #132957 is a reply to message #132950] Mon, 21 November 2016 17:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
scottwilkins is currently offline  scottwilkins
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Tulsa, OK
Our setup is identical to Zakk's. Raid 1 SAS on A Dell T420, Our backup worked well on 9.0.4, but on 9.2.0 is started this super slow issue. Only change was the Kerio version. We backup to a NAS.

[Updated on: Mon, 21 November 2016 17:50]

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Re: Backup very slow after update from 8.5.3 to 9.x [message #133028 is a reply to message #132957] Wed, 23 November 2016 22:03 Go to previous message
scottwilkins is currently offline  scottwilkins
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Registered: May 2006
Location: Tulsa, OK
Here's something interesting. I upgraded the memory in our server from 8 GB to 24 GB and the backup sped up noticeably. But still quite a bit slower than before. Too slow IMHO.
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