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MDAC Support - 30.Jan.2004 1:02:00 PM   
xnih

 

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Status: offline 		Just FYI, MDAC 2.6, 2.7, and 2.8 appear to have been added to the products.xml file pushed out from GFI. It has some updated info/fixes in it compared to what I had before.

eric
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RE: MDAC Support - 2.Feb.2004 10:18:00 AM   
xnih

 

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Status: offline 		2.5 has supposedly been added too, haven't had a chance to verify that yet though.

eric

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RE: MDAC Support - 16.Feb.2004 10:50:00 AM   
scottf51

 

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Status: offline 		It does not detect MDAC as an installed product of any of my XP machines

Is it possible that this is another of the SP1a issues ?

XP Pro SP1a English, with all patches MDAC 2.7 SP1 with newest patch installed.

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RE: MDAC Support - 16.Feb.2004 11:14:00 AM   
xnih

 

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Status: offline 		will check, have a laptop here at home with XP on it (holiday today and all here in the US). Will see if it is detecting on mine here.

Also, make sure you have it set to autodownload the latest info from GFI too.

Look in the products.xml file and verify that there is info about MDAC in there, if there isn't you aren't pulling the latest mssecure and other stuff from GFI.

Also, please check your registry and see about the following keys:

SOFTWARE\Classes\MDACVer.Version.2.50" RegKey=""
SOFTWARE\Classes\MDACVer.Version.2.60" RegKey=""
SOFTWARE\Classes\MDACVer.Version.2.70" RegKey=""
SOFTWARE\Classes\MDACVer.Version.2.80" RegKey=""
SOFTWARE\Classes\MDACVer.Version.2.90" RegKey=""

The above are what is being looked for.

eric

[ February 16, 2004, 05:15 PM: Message edited by: xnih ]

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RE: MDAC Support - 16.Feb.2004 11:35:00 AM   
xnih

 

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Status: offline 		MDAC 2.7 SP1 is what shows up on my XP SP1 box, but don't have an SP1a box here, so it could be that the registry keys on XP1a are a bit different, so check for what MDAC key, if any shows up on your box(es).

eric

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RE: MDAC Support - 16.Feb.2004 5:29:00 PM   
ccowling

 

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Status: offline 		Hi all,
I find that I have several versions of MDAC running and thought I would update them all to 2.8. I can't seem to push this out as a custom patch. Has anyone tried this? I've tried the supplied MS parameters as well as /q and also the MS suggested: mdac_type /q /c:"setup /qnt"
No luck so far. I have a preview copy of another tool that seems to work pushing these out so it can be done. (The other tool does not have the good scanning features though.)

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RE: MDAC Support - 16.Feb.2004 9:25:00 PM   
xnih

 

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Status: offline 		I just downloaded mdac_typ.exe (for 2.8) set it up as a custom patch, pushed it to my 2000 box with the options of:

/q /c:"setup /qnt"

and that worked fine on 2 machines so far.

Just made sure I set it to reboot afterwards so I knew it was done (took awhile to do the install).

But a normal /q alone is not enough, because it prompts you to answer some questions.

So not sure what the problem was when you tried it before, all I can say is try again since it worked for me.

eric

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RE: MDAC Support - 17.Feb.2004 7:40:00 PM   
ccowling

 

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Status: offline 		OK, I found the problem. I had made a folder under the \download folder called CustomPatches\MDAC\28 and put the mdac_typ.exe there to keep them straight (all the versions have the exact same name). There was a mdac_typ.exe in the download folder and it was a patch or update to an earlier version 2.5 (why MS calls them all the same name I don't know). Even though I was calling my patch from the proper directory, each time it was getting the one from the download directory by default. When I deleted the one from the download directory it copied the proper one to the workstation and everything worked.
The problem is that it also copied the file into the download directory. I think that will end up upgrading every mdac up to 2.8 (due to that crazy naming convention that MS is using for this patch/upgrade) and I may not want to do that without a lot more testing.
Seems like the custom patch section has a little unexpected behavoir. OK once you know about it but it took a little time to figure out. I suppose it only will effect patches that have the same name no what version of product they are patching; I hope that is rare. [Wink]

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RE: MDAC Support - 18.Feb.2004 4:39:00 AM   
scottf51

 

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Status: offline 		That would be the problem then, apparently SP1a machines have MDAC 2.71

My registry entry is

"SOFTWARE\Classes\MDACVer.Version.2.71"

I am not usre if my machines are even SP1a, they are just installed using our volume licencing disk that specifies it has SP1 installed. It shows "version build 2600.xpsp2.030422-1633 : service pack 1"

Using the microsoft component checker tool it seems to find some files from what it calls "mdac 2.7 SP1 refresh" as well as the normal ones, at least I think thats what the tool is saying.

whats the betting lots my file versions are different, I can feel a headache coming on [Wink]

By the way Eric, you are famous, you are being mentioned on the patch management mailing list

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=patchmanagement&m=107704025516076&w=2

[Smile]

Scott

[ February 18, 2004, 12:48 PM: Message edited by: scottf51 ]

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RE: MDAC Support - 18.Feb.2004 8:42:00 AM   
xnih

 

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Status: offline 		will see what we can do on the 2.71 thing here in a bit.

eric

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RE: MDAC Support - 18.Feb.2004 9:06:00 AM   
xnih

 

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Status: offline 		scottf51,

a quick fix for your issue would be to modify the products.xml, change the following area:

<Product ProductID="146" ProductName="MDAC 2.7" UseOSServicePack="0" GOLDServicePackID="191" DeterminedServicePack="0" DeterminedProductName="">
<Tests>
<Test Type="p" RegPath="SOFTWARE\Classes\MDACVer.Version.2.70" RegKey="" RegValue=""/>
<Test Type="!p" RegPath="SOFTWARE\Classes\MDACVer.Version.2.80" RegKey="" RegValue=""/></Tests>
<ServicePacks>
<ServicePack ID="239" Number="1" Name="Service Pack 1" FileName="MDAC_TYP.EXE" URL="http://download.microsoft.com/download/3/b/f/3bf74b01-16ba-472d-9a8c-42b2b4fa0d76/mdac_typ.exe" SilentInstall="0" Dependencies="">
<Tests>
<Test Type="c" RegPath="Software\Microsoft\DataAccess" RegKey="Version" RegValue="2.71"/>
</Tests>
</ServicePack>
</ServicePacks>
</Product>

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So change test type from:

<Test Type="p" RegPath="SOFTWARE\Classes\MDACVer.Version.2.70" RegKey="" RegValue=""/>

to:

<Test Type="c" RegPath="SOFTWARE\Classes\MDACVer.Version.2.7" RegKey="" RegValue=""/>

Also, since it is apparently already SP1 of MDAC 2.7, what is the registry info for here:

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DataAccess

RegKey="Version" RegValue="2.71"

thanks,

eric

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RE: MDAC Support - 18.Feb.2004 9:35:00 AM   
scottf51

 

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Status: offline 		Thanks for the reply,

My registry info under

HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\DataAccess
is
version = "2.71.9030.0"

I will try what you suggested as a quick fix, I had just been checking the XML file and was about to make some tweaks after checking the file using XMLSPY. I just thought I would mention the problem cause I am sure that other people must ne having it and if nobody mentions it, it will never get fixed.

Thanks

Scott

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RE: MDAC Support - 18.Feb.2004 10:04:00 AM   
xnih

 

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Status: offline 		Just got an email from the person in charge of updating the file, should be fixed in GFI's stuff here any time (unless he finds something wrong and decides not to update it). So make sure you have LNSS set to autodownload updates and restart it here in the next 30 mins or so, it should be updated by then according to the email I just got.

eric

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RE: MDAC Support - 18.Feb.2004 10:06:00 AM   
xnih

 

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Status: offline 		actually already updated:

<Test Type="p" RegPath="SOFTWARE\Classes\MDACVer.Version.2.70 | SOFTWARE\Classes\MDACVer.Version.2.71" RegKey="" RegValue="" />

he ended up doing it a little different, but this way it does exact lookups for both keys, instead of a generic lookup.

So restart LNSS and let me know if it works for you.

eric

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RE: MDAC Support - 19.Feb.2004 4:14:00 AM   
scottf51

 

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Status: offline 		Well it seems like it is working, just hope when I do any further upgrades I won't end up with different version numbers from you guys again. I guess at SP2 we should all end up with the same versions for all files if I am lucky [Smile]

Thanks for your help

Scott

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